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Offline Zolthorg

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #200 on: July 28, 2008, 05:39:11 am »
I'm sure atleast some of you played FFVI:
Anyone know why instant death attacks sometimes don't work? For example with Edgar's chainsaw.
Sometimes when it does instant death, the enemy dies but then just pops back up. Why does that happen?

automatic instant death would be lame, sometimes it misses (but still shows the full animation) and sometimes the enemy is immune (bosses).  This is true in most early FF's.

Ah right. But I found it weird especially because it ALWAYS has the instant death effect on a few specific monsters. Who would then re-apear with full health!
So instead of sometimes doing damage instead of instant death as it should, it always does instant death which I found kinda weird.

try throwing a revivify/ phoenix down / potion at those monsters
i'm pretty sure this happens when you instant kill zombie type monsters

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #201 on: July 28, 2008, 09:39:07 am »
Found this funny interrogation scene spoof from The Dark Knight movie, and wanted to share it here.
It's a YouTube video, and if you have two and a half minutes to spare, it's worth a watch.

WARNING: You may not want to see it if you haven't seen the movie yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2yv8aT0UFc

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #202 on: July 28, 2008, 04:26:32 pm »
I saw this while drinking my coffee early this morning, and thought it was the bee's knees.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KLwKMjUxvQQ

I'm not even that big a fan of Parkour/Free Running, but I think it looks amazing and I will buy it when it comes out (assuming it comes out for 360)

Speaking of which, if any of you have 360's, and want to add me, my gamertag is TenFortyEZ (Yeah, like the tax form.)


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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #203 on: July 29, 2008, 01:24:45 am »
Where did the Shadow of the beast critique and re imagining threads go? I thought they were in the challenges section but I can't find them

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #204 on: July 29, 2008, 03:21:41 am »
That batman video is busting at the seams with roffles!  :lol:
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #205 on: July 29, 2008, 04:39:20 am »
I actually cried a little during that video, way too funny!

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #206 on: July 29, 2008, 09:07:08 pm »
Pixelation IRC: is there one?

If not, there needs to be. :mean:

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #208 on: July 29, 2008, 10:45:24 pm »
I think TIGIRC has enough of a member crossover that it counts ???.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #209 on: July 29, 2008, 11:11:07 pm »
http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=134.0
Sexy. :-* Thanks. Now everyone get on, for the greater good!

I think TIGIRC has enough of a member crossover that it counts ???.
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« Reply #210 on: July 30, 2008, 11:13:03 pm »
Ever notice how when a girl is in profile how the side of her waste is smaller than the width of her front?  Then watch a Disney movie (especially Jasmine from Aladdin and Ariel from The Little Mermaid) notice how when she's in profile and then turns to face straight, her waist is exactly the same size from every angle like her waste is cylinderic.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #211 on: July 31, 2008, 03:33:15 am »
there's a version of DuckHunt where you CAN shoot the dog.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/03/10/duck-hunt-the-quest-to-shoot-that-damned-dog-continues/

SOMEHOW we must get the sprites of the whole process =O

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Re: Disney girls are shaped differently than real girls
« Reply #212 on: July 31, 2008, 05:04:57 pm »
Ever notice how when a girl is in profile how the side of her waste is smaller than the width of her front?  Then watch a Disney movie (especially Jasmine from Aladdin and Ariel from The Little Mermaid) notice how when she's in profile and then turns to face straight, her waist is exactly the same size from every angle like her waste is cylinderic.

wait, wasn't this post it's own thread?  How did it get in here?

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #213 on: July 31, 2008, 05:12:40 pm »
The Mod's must have used their black magic. Be weary of their sorcery...
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #214 on: August 05, 2008, 03:29:35 am »
Hey Y'all.

So I was working tonight, and cooking a butt-load of bacon, and I splashed a lot of bacon grease on my forearm.



It started about that size (it was about the size of a dime, give or take.) By the end of the night, it was the size of that red area. I drained it when I got home from work, and it was nasty.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #215 on: August 05, 2008, 03:35:34 am »
I thought you weren't supposed to drain blisters?

That looks nasty, regardless. When my nephew was really small(1 or 2) he grabbed a lightbulb with his whole hand... ended up having a blister that covered his entire palm. Man... that was terrible.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #216 on: August 05, 2008, 04:22:52 am »
I drained it, but then put stuff on it and gauzed it up. I guess it's sanitary, but I dunno. I'm not too worried.

Hah, grabbed a lightbulb, that's rough. I guess when I was little I grabbed a curling iron. I don't remember it, but I guess it was pretty awful.

Oh, and what's up with the unused karma system?

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #217 on: August 05, 2008, 04:35:18 am »
Eh... it's used. Well, I dunno about +'s, but you'll notice a few members have -'s(strikes).

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #218 on: August 05, 2008, 05:51:34 am »
some people have cookies :)  just because you don't doesn't mean its not being used!   :crazy:

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #219 on: August 05, 2008, 12:08:27 pm »
Just a question. How do you guys handle people who keep giving critics as if they are 100% knowledgeable with a tone of "arrogance" as a side dish, but when it's their turn to post their stuff, they can't even apply what they preach on their own artwork? I believe everyone has seen this sort of people from different graphics forums.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #220 on: August 05, 2008, 12:39:54 pm »
I've seen that, Froli.
When I post an artwork, I'll usually let a couple of comment posts get in first so I can see what most people agree on so I can gague what trully needs work.
Also, I'll rely on my own gut-feeling and experience, and if the critique that someone gave me doesn't sit well with me, I'll most likely not follow it.

Now, as someone who is delivering the critique, I tend not to do so unless someone is in dire need of help and I can truly help them.
That said, I tend to only help the newbies who are just getting into pixel art since I don't consider myself high level yet. Especially not compared to the big guns in this message board.  :o

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #221 on: August 05, 2008, 01:02:29 pm »
Today is a historic day! I beat Final Fantasy 7! Finally!  :D :D :D

I think it's pretty easy to tell where someone's heart is with their critique. As far as I'm concerned, my critics can be as arrogant as they want as long as they give me some good advice and don't just trash my work. If someone is too snobby to explain how to do it properly or do an edit or share a link or resource or even point someone in the right direction, the critique isn't going to be helpful, so it's almost a non-issue.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #222 on: August 05, 2008, 03:08:50 pm »
I think it boils down to being able to honestly assess your own work.  Their attitude and skill should not come into the equation; Helm might give you a shitty piece of advice (ok its unlikely but its POSSIBLE).  You must be able to judge these things for yourself, or else the whole point of receiving critique is pretty much lost.  You can't just blindly follow all advice, or even all advice from the skilled folks.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #223 on: August 05, 2008, 03:51:55 pm »
I tend to be on the opposite of adam's scale in that I usually need more convincing than others, it's something i'm working on.  partly it's that nothing is more frustrating than not *getting* the critique (or not knowing how to act on it) and that frustration definitely comes out, but I don't mean to direct it at people helping.

I've also had my bad moments.  we know this.  another thing to work on.  my close friend she says I'm so insecure that I have to be stubborn and arrogant just to not panic >.<.

PS : I wonder if anyone else read Froli's comment and thought "fuck, that might be me??" - not that everything is centered around yours truly but well here we go again :P.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #224 on: August 05, 2008, 04:28:56 pm »
PS : I wonder if anyone else read Froli's comment and thought "fuck, that might be me??" - not that everything is centered around yours truly but well here we go again :P.

Ironically it actually was talking about you.  >:D  :P
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #225 on: August 05, 2008, 04:34:14 pm »
Well my beef with the whole comment is I think in a lot of ways I actually have learned more from examining and looking for flaws in other people's work than in my own.  That definitely sounds arrogant, but I find it much easier to look at other's work with a fresh eye, but once I've identified flaws there I find it much easier to address them in my own work.  I'm sure that is narcissistic or arrogant, but hey, it works!  Maybe my thought process is "well they messed it up, so i shouldn't feel bad that I messed it up?"

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #226 on: August 05, 2008, 05:28:27 pm »
A great deal of what i've learned is exactly how Adam put it and i feel like i should contribute more for getting free lessons from stalking a lot.
There are a lot of raging art critics around since putting your potentially flawed work out there makes you vulnerable to them. A lot of these angry people get their kicks from pwning others, while essentially a critic should be something completely opposite. The amount of rage is especially high in places that allow anonymous to dwell freely.
I don't see it here on pixelation though. The atmosphere is positive and people are able to disagree without raging and all... i find it quite wonderful.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #227 on: August 05, 2008, 05:59:43 pm »
To make things clear, I'm not talking about you guys :). Specially a lot of people here are great, seen the individual improvements and has a lot of potential to be high tiers in the art business and game industry. This place is pretty awesome.

It's just I see this often on other forums that I visit, and they critic as if they are an accomplished artist and tells advices as if they are "facts", but draws like a beginner. I think the "Hawk" guy who got banned here long time ago, describes the type of critic I'm referring to. All talk but can't do the walk.


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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #228 on: August 05, 2008, 06:12:51 pm »
As far as I'm concerned a good crit is a good crit even if the person giving it can't draw for shit. A lot of people have better eyes for critique than hands for drawing. If a piece of advice helps you address an error in your work you should be happy to have gotten it, not think in terms of 'well DO BETTER YOURSELF THEN!!'. It's not of direct interest if they can or cannot, it doesn't change that you have the error in your work to address yourself.

Also the 'he talks as if he's 100% right' is not directly related to the quality of critique either. You have a brain of your own to make your own choices as to how useful a piece of critique is. That being said I can see how such attitude would grate, but let's be clear it grates because of our own insecurities. And THAT being said such behaviour should probably be moderated in a critique board because a positive attitude, not an antagonistic one, should be cultivated for such a place so as you see we would give notices and warnings to people on attitude in Pixelation. Just keep in mind that on the psychological level, the problem is more with you getting riled up by such attitudes than with the people having the attitude. They might have it because they're conceited jerks that indeed think they're always right, or they might just have no time for pleasantries and just want to help as directly as possible and trust you to make up your own mind as to whether they're right or not.

It's been proved though that if you're super-nice and pepper your critique with more 'that's just my opinion though' s and etc the person getting critiqued will take the harsh crits more lightly at first read. That's both good and bad because a crit taken lightly is a crit lightly dismissed also. And besides, just a scathing, harsh, super in your face mcblunt piece of critique that makes you fume at the first 5 reads of it... well you can read it a sixth time eventually and learn from it, it's on the internet in written form, it's not going anywhere (as opposed to real life verbal crits where being super polite is even more important).

My own reasons for critique have been mentioned a few times and they're pretty benevolent: I get a huge kick out of seeing someone be happy over improving their art because people helped them out of their own good will: it's a small miracle when it happens. Also it helps my own art a huge lot to be critical and analytical of other people's art.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #229 on: August 05, 2008, 06:45:47 pm »

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #230 on: August 05, 2008, 07:59:18 pm »
As far as I'm concerned a good crit is a good crit even if the person giving it can't draw for shit.

This is true, and I wish I stated my post with better words. I was talking about people who give critics with the illusion he knows what he is talking about by hiding on his fluency in english and copy pasting some words lets say from you helm without even understanding it and then just handing it out like it works on every situation. A newbie might find this convincing and probably do things the wrong way and develop some bad habits

An example would be this guy, I wish I can find his other post but I do remember he keeps tossing this walk cycle few many times as if it's the perfect guideline. And when it was his turn to show his work
http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=3564.0
Of course his antics in pixelation didn't last long.

Nowadays I lurk often with my limited time in the internet, but when I see guys like hawk in many places .. it still bothers me.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #231 on: August 05, 2008, 08:23:06 pm »
 :crazy:
You realize you're all editing the edit...?

Editation is the first step to perfection. Though the place may be wrong to do so, there is a still a beneficiary purpose that comes out of it.
Fizz, anyway in regards to your example, it's much better now in terms of stance, and even color.

Also upon looking at the animation again there is an issue on the side view on the right foot, (second from front), you shed no real movement into it, what happens is that you have a static chain of pixels for that leg, and then it seems that you create a 3rd leg to substitute stepping while at the same time you retain the original right leg. This would partically be the issue with the movement along with the motion effort put into the model to make it walk. Lastly you might want to even out the sizes because as you see the front view is larger than the side view by at least 2-4 pixels which may cause some issues down the line of production.
This guy's pretty funny.
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« Reply #232 on: August 05, 2008, 08:47:17 pm »
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and your words are meaningless as you fail to reckon to that reasoning in addition to your childish request for a immature resolve
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #233 on: August 05, 2008, 09:18:59 pm »
Let's not have a bashing party for a user that isn't even around anymore please.

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I was talking about people who give critics with the illusion he knows what he is talking about by hiding on his fluency in english and copy pasting some words lets say from you helm without even understanding it and then just handing it out like it works on every situation. A newbie might find this convincing and probably do things the wrong way and develop some bad habits

Alright then perhaps somebody should intervene, I'll give you that.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #234 on: August 05, 2008, 10:11:02 pm »
Today is a historic day! I beat Final Fantasy 7! Finally!  :D :D :D

'Beat Sephiroth' beaten it? Or 'Beat Ruby and Sapphire Weapon' beaten it?
I mean, except for FFVII's final battle being the most epic of all FF final battles, It's also the easiest really.

There are harder super bosses aswell though. Final Fantasy X is boss in that area. I mean, Penance is just insane.
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« Reply #235 on: August 06, 2008, 12:31:26 am »
I should get back into X... I really liked that one, and VIII too. I played VII, but I stopped before I got to Sephiroth for some reason. I don't know why. The optional bosses at the once place on the field in X were insane hard... I still haven't beaten most of them.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #236 on: August 06, 2008, 04:35:32 am »
I'll post this here so I don't clutter up ndchristie's thread:
I've been playing this Genesis game lately...I think it's pretty good at making low-count animations seem good, it's called ComixZone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azIZwsCGjW0
I was just playing this game this morning for the first time in years... hours before you posted that. Weird. Great game though.

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« Reply #237 on: August 06, 2008, 07:08:01 am »
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #238 on: August 06, 2008, 09:47:58 am »
Just one day till the large hadron collider is activated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #239 on: August 06, 2008, 10:19:14 am »
Just one day till the large hadron collider is activated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

I've been waiting for this more than X-mas or a birthday. Building this thing has been a mind-boggling achievement. Deserves to become a Wonder in Civilization.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #240 on: August 06, 2008, 01:23:28 pm »
'Beat Sephiroth' beaten it? Or 'Beat Ruby and Sapphire Weapon' beaten it?
I mean, except for FFVII's final battle being the most epic of all FF final battles, It's also the easiest really.

Beaten Sephiroth.
I found it to be easy once I did all the subquests, but that was what made it fun for me towards the end. I had Cloud with 4x Slash and Tifa with Mime, and Knights of the Round and all of the Bahamut summons so I could just kick the tar out of anything I encountered without breaking a sweat, it was a very gratifying reward. I beat one of the weapons (the Centaur-looking one) but the underwater guy is frickin' impossible... it'll give me something to strive for, haha.

I should get back into X... I really liked that one, and VIII too. I played VII, but I stopped before I got to Sephiroth for some reason. I don't know why. The optional bosses at the once place on the field in X were insane hard... I still haven't beaten most of them.

I played quite a ways into X but I didn't really like it that much... I think it was a combination of the art direction and the voice acting. I think out of all the FF games, 7 and 9 were my favorites with 12 coming in a distant third place. Of course I've only beaten 7, heheh. I gave up on 8 shortly after the love scene complete with pop music... INNNN SPAAAAAAACE!
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #241 on: August 06, 2008, 02:33:36 pm »
I should get back into X... I really liked that one, and VIII too. I played VII, but I stopped before I got to Sephiroth for some reason. I don't know why. The optional bosses at the once place on the field in X were insane hard... I still haven't beaten most of them.

I played quite a ways into X but I didn't really like it that much... I think it was a combination of the art direction and the voice acting. I think out of all the FF games, 7 and 9 were my favorites with 12 coming in a distant third place. Of course I've only beaten 7, heheh. I gave up on 8 shortly after the love scene complete with pop music... INNNN SPAAAAAAACE!
Heh, have you played X-2? I'm usually pretty tolerable with bad voice-acting and terrible movies... but I couldn't play X-2 simply because all of the damn flowers and rainbows they were throwing around.

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« Reply #242 on: August 06, 2008, 02:46:32 pm »
I played X until I got too fed up with:

Wakka - "I'm a dork, you can tell it by my hair style."
Tidus - "Huh? I dunno, I just play Blitzball."
Yuna - "I'm so spiritual"

And playing Blitzball in itself was sucky. I don't play sports games, and I don't buy RPG games in order to play a sports games.

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« Reply #243 on: August 06, 2008, 03:07:45 pm »
I played quite a bit into X actually, but man that game is rubbish. Also I really do not get the appeal of Final Fantasy anymore. I quite liked 6 on the SNES, but even that. They are ALL the same in essense.

All FF games have SHIT storys, I'd rather read a book. They are rather linear as well for being so big and they take quite long to finish where most of what you do is being engaged in random fights. There is not really much game in them as far as I am concerned.
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« Reply #244 on: August 06, 2008, 03:16:45 pm »
It will always confound me why FF games enjoy widespread appeal.

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« Reply #245 on: August 06, 2008, 03:20:39 pm »
Sorry to derail the thread, but I've never played Final Fantasy.

Has anyone else noticed that the Vista recycle bin is really buggy? I mean, I don't think I've gone through a complete day of using my laptop without having to restore the recycle bin icon on my desktop. For some reason, every time I put something in the recycle bin, rather than change the icon to the recycle bin that's full, it just disappears, and all I can see is the text saying "recycle bin."

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« Reply #246 on: August 06, 2008, 03:25:03 pm »
It will always confound me why FF games enjoy widespread appeal.

That's simple I think. If nothing else it's OK escapism.
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« Reply #247 on: August 06, 2008, 03:46:31 pm »
It will always confound me why FF games enjoy widespread appeal.

That's simple I think. If nothing else it's OK escapism.

I do believe there's a connection between escapism and grinding. I remember playing Ultima 5 for years, but I didn't play it in order to beat the game, I played it in order to spend time in Britannia, which I preferred to real world at the time, being angsty teenager and all, and grinding, killing enemies for the sake of XP and loot gave me something to do while in Britannia, an excuse to be in that world. Same thing with FF, maybe. It may be be that in FF following an epic story offers more in terms of escapism than grinding, although there's a lot of that as well. (Random encounter fights, what a horrible idea. But servers the purpose in this case.)

I've played WOW a little, not much, but I believe if I were a teenager now, I'd play WOW with the same intensity as I did U5. Mostly for the sake escapism, WOW is really good at that. Never mind that it isn't much of a game in a more strict sense.
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« Reply #248 on: August 06, 2008, 03:56:15 pm »
I tend to have 'moments' where I just feel like grinding. They're few and far between, but those are usually the times I play a FF game. Then a week later I don't even want to turn the game on, and this can go on for months.

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« Reply #249 on: August 06, 2008, 03:56:58 pm »
'Beat Sephiroth' beaten it? Or 'Beat Ruby and Sapphire Weapon' beaten it?
I mean, except for FFVII's final battle being the most epic of all FF final battles, It's also the easiest really.

Beaten Sephiroth.
I found it to be easy once I did all the subquests, but that was what made it fun for me towards the end. I had Cloud with 4x Slash and Tifa with Mime, and Knights of the Round and all of the Bahamut summons so I could just kick the tar out of anything I encountered without breaking a sweat, it was a very gratifying reward. I beat one of the weapons (the Centaur-looking one) but the underwater guy is frickin' impossible... it'll give me something to strive for, haha.

I should get back into X... I really liked that one, and VIII too. I played VII, but I stopped before I got to Sephiroth for some reason. I don't know why. The optional bosses at the once place on the field in X were insane hard... I still haven't beaten most of them.

I played quite a ways into X but I didn't really like it that much... I think it was a combination of the art direction and the voice acting. I think out of all the FF games, 7 and 9 were my favorites with 12 coming in a distant third place. Of course I've only beaten 7, heheh. I gave up on 8 shortly after the love scene complete with pop music... INNNN SPAAAAAAACE!

I think IX is my favourite actually. Though I've also enjoyed FFVI alot lately. And FFVII. And well, I enjoy most of em actually. hehe.
I've never beaten Ozma in FFIX, did you ever try him? In the chocobo air garden? That guy is insane. Once his first attack was meteor, and it just killed of my party in one hit.
He's brutaly fast. He often can go 3 turns before you go once, even with auto haste. And it's not like he holds back in those turns either.

Yeah the centaur thing I beat aswell, that's Ultima Weapon. For some reason Ultimate is not the best (Eh?). Ruby and Sapphire are on a whole other level then him. I thought they had a few milion hp too.
There's only a single strategy to em I think. Something with multiplying Knights of the Round or something.

Penance in FFX is alot harder then the beasts on the field. (Taking you're talking about Ultima Buster and so on) It's like comparing an ant to a dragon. Penance has 12 milion hp. And you need to have everyone's Sphere grid entirely full.
Yeah, you got that right. That's ALOT of grinding.

And yeah that voice acting. When Yuna said Tidus should laugh. Man it was so bad I rolled on the floor laughing.
But it didn't bother me that much overall. And I really like FFX's battle system. It's much faster and more dynamic then the normal turn based system.
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It's fun how, if you have omni slash and Ultima Weapon at Sephiroth, you can instantly kill him. Really lame but also quite funny.

It always appears to me that alot of FF's aren't liked because they're too comercial or something. Same with what I find about alot of music.