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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #250 on: February 25, 2008, 04:58:47 pm »
Ah dang!  Yeah I could have spent a whole nother week there and still not have been able to visit everyone I wanted to...most of the time was spent standing around in museums anyways!

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #251 on: February 25, 2008, 07:06:05 pm »
tyeah mean - you didn't even tell us!  get your toosh back down here to NYC!  Yarrgh!

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #252 on: February 26, 2008, 05:57:46 pm »
A new trailer for Super Banana Nababa showing off a few things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmBPYsvGIU&eurl :ouch:

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« Reply #253 on: February 26, 2008, 11:39:58 pm »
A new trailer for Super Banana Nababa showing off a few things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmBPYsvGIU&eurl :ouch:

Is the music in the video going to be included in the actual gameplay or BGM? If so, you win.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #254 on: February 27, 2008, 12:16:07 am »
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #255 on: February 27, 2008, 03:48:22 pm »
@ B.O.B.: Yeah it is, we're working with this amazing guy called Phlogiston, you can hear more of his stuff here: http://www.iimusic.net/artist/phlogiston.php

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #256 on: February 27, 2008, 05:12:46 pm »
oooo yea i downloaded Mode 3 off 8BP, phlogiston def rocks :D

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #257 on: February 29, 2008, 11:13:59 am »
Did any of you ever buy a game at Glu Mobile? I tried to buy Alpha Wing 2 but when I try to pay it keeps saying:
"Cannot find an available route for the purchase. This may be caused by merchant configuration or remote systems failures."
What the hell is that supossed to mean?

And what in the world exactly is a billing address. This is not the first time I've bought something with Visa, but I've never had to give a 'billing address' before.
So yeah this is starting to get on my nerves.
Anyone got an idea about this? Am I just retarded?

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #258 on: February 29, 2008, 12:42:19 pm »
A billing address is the address with which you have registered the card. Usually the same as where you live, but it may vary.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #259 on: February 29, 2008, 08:13:28 pm »
oh my god, i love these new smilies soooooo much  :D  :)  :y:  ;D
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #260 on: February 29, 2008, 11:19:49 pm »
 >:D !yus! D: :0# Yeah they're awesome!

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« Reply #261 on: March 01, 2008, 12:32:54 am »
Some of them, particularly :D are hard to read at first glance though.
I'd say I like >:D best.
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« Reply #262 on: March 01, 2008, 03:31:30 am »
Fitting considering your post count.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #263 on: March 01, 2008, 01:16:27 pm »
anyone know what was the last non-anime, non-simpsons movie that wasn't straight to dvd?
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« Reply #264 on: March 01, 2008, 02:25:34 pm »
Bee Movie,  I think.

I thought you also said non-3d, which makes the question all kinds of hard to answer. These're the most recent that (I'd) count:
(I included stopmotion stuff, just because)

2007
(the Simpsons Movie)
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters

2006
Flushed Away
Curious George

2005
Pooh's Heffalump Movie
Corpse Bride
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit

2004
The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
Clifford's Really Big Movie

2003
Brother Bear

2002
Treasure Planet
Lilo & Stitch

2001
Osmosis Jones
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Monkeybone

2000
Chicken Run
The Emperor's New Groove
Titan A.E.

pulled these from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animated_feature_films#2000s

If you cut out the foreign and the not-for-theatre-release stuff, this whole decade's gotten pretty bleak. Of course, with Pixar and Miyazaki and the rest of them included, things are still going pretty well.



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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #265 on: March 01, 2008, 02:33:17 pm »
oh yah, I meant non-3D also :P
just noticed I said "movie".. I meant to say "cartoon" :crazy:

I've been watching disney's tarzan, can't believe it came out in 1999, I thought it was at least 2001.
I really like the movie, very cool how little dialog there is, infact I don't think there's any talking for maybe the first 15 minutes..
Also been watching the special features, I'd always assumed the 3D environments were just filtered, similar to cel-shading, but it turns out they painted the textures straight onto the 3D objects from the same camera angle used for the sequence
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #266 on: March 01, 2008, 11:03:37 pm »
what about like, every b-movie?  ???

ie Snakes on a Train  ;)

There's probably billions of other examples of kung-fu or horror or scifi movies that are direct to dvd.
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« Reply #267 on: March 01, 2008, 11:14:21 pm »
thanks Dogmeat!

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #268 on: March 01, 2008, 11:15:10 pm »
i believe takam was asking about any traditional, 2d animated films that had actually been released in theaters.  The answer is *basically* none, for about a decade now.  This is why so many of us watch anime...

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #269 on: March 01, 2008, 11:29:49 pm »
A billing address is the address with which you have registered the card. Usually the same as where you live, but it may vary.

Thanks for that.
Still doesn't work, dunno what it is.
But I sent an e-mail to GLU and they sent it directly to my mobile, for free, hah.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #271 on: March 04, 2008, 11:33:30 pm »


clock radios - the lazy man's flashlight.  it's like those sprint commercials only just tilting the camera. 

oh and yeah, it's hard to write cursive on an inverted axis evenly over 30 seconds of exposure.


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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #272 on: March 05, 2008, 12:41:40 am »
Gygax is dead......i thought he already was? hmph.  sucks.
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« Reply #273 on: March 05, 2008, 12:43:38 am »
Is it just me or is constructing heads from circles an overly constraining and tedious task with almost no benefits compared to just laying down a few disconnected guidelines? !yus!

Also, yes, RIP Gygax.
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« Reply #274 on: March 05, 2008, 12:47:28 am »
I'd say it make more sense to make a head out of sphere shapes--a face is 3d, not flat, no?  ???
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« Reply #275 on: March 05, 2008, 12:54:00 am »
Um, spheres are the same as circles when unrendered, no? ???
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #276 on: March 05, 2008, 02:34:41 am »
Last off-topic message from me:

@ sharprm & Dusty: Pregnant ladies and babies are not a persecuted minority group.

@ vedsten : Exactly my thoughts. "American History X - Curb Stompin' Mania!" came to my mind when I read your comment :S
I can't believe tough that we still have to resort to drawing parallels between racial and sexual discrimination to make people understand that it IS a big deal. It's 2008, when will people just get it?

Last month in the US, 2 gay youths were killed as a result of hate crimes. 15 year old Lawrence King took three bullets to the back of the head by one of his classmates. 17 year old Simmie Williams Jr. was attacked by two men and then shot. Countless others are harassed and beaten every single day. I won't even get into the global scene, if you want to know just google "gay hanging in Iran". Now what were you saying about pregnant women?

Now on topic: I'm calling dibs on Elvira: Mistress of the Dark.
First, this may not make sense to those who weren't following the latest Mock-up Frenzy thread... go there to see what this is about.
Okay... what did my post have to do with pregnant woman and babies?
There's ton of hate crime against all kinds of minorities/races/gender and any other thing that can make someone different from someone else. If this is the kind of attitude that was taken we wouldn't have a lot of good games/art... anything really.
I don't like hate crime anymore than the next person(assuming they don't like it), but I saw absolutely nothing wrong with the mock-up. It didn't depict anything remotely discriminative... it just had a cowboy dodging wrenches that were thrown by... nothing. Sure, it was about a movie that had gay guys in it... but how in the world does that make the mock-up offensive? I guess any movie that has any kind of hate crime is wrong now?
This is the kind of attitude that ends up with the whole world being censored, hands being led by the FCC and such so no one gets their feelings hurt.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #277 on: March 05, 2008, 02:35:58 am »
A billing address is the address with which you have registered the card. Usually the same as where you live, but it may vary.
Oh ya... I guess I'm a little late, but I think it's also where your bills were sent before the digital age.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #278 on: March 05, 2008, 02:57:58 am »
Nobody was censored. I did not ask for the image to be removed, but I could not go without expressing my disgust with the subject matter, and I am glad he had the sensibility to decide to take the mockup down himself.

I will not get into the argument of whether his drawings were harmless or not. If you saw the image and description and didn't think anything of it, there's nothing I can say that will change your mind about that. Maybe you just didn't pay enough attention to the movie. He was not just any cowboy, and wrenches were not thrown at him out of nowhere, for no specific reason.

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« Reply #279 on: March 05, 2008, 03:01:56 am »
I think part of Dusty's point was that the mockup itself, without the context of the movie, was entirely innocent. ::)
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #280 on: March 05, 2008, 03:08:06 am »
@ sharprm & Dusty: Pregnant ladies and babies are not a persecuted minority group.

Non-minority = fair game.

wait, are you seriously suggesting that a piece of art depicting the murder of a pregnant woman is somehow less vulgar than the murder of a homosexual? Sounds like you're creating the line of discrimination here.

I encourage Mice to defend his original piece. Perhaps I will mockup Triumph of the Will.

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« Reply #281 on: March 05, 2008, 03:11:01 am »
Exactly.

And in the mock-up, the wrenches just came from no where... as most NES games. If you say it's not about the mock-up, fine... if it's about the movie... fine, but why bring it up in the thread for mock-ups? Criticize the movie, not the person who made a mock-up about it, he didn't make the movie.

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« Reply #282 on: March 05, 2008, 03:20:39 am »
I find explicitly discriminatory or racist things hilarious.

I'm not racist or discriminatory by credo, however I wouldn't hesitate to make a gay joke. I view all groups as equal, however some stuff is too outrageous to pass up.  :)

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« Reply #283 on: March 05, 2008, 03:32:30 am »
The challenge is about turning a movie into a mockup for the NES. Without the context of the movie, the mockup is completely devoid of meaning... you can't sepparate the two so easily.

I will not criticize the movie, IMO it was brilliant. It did not depict killing a homosexual in a jolly tone, unlike mice's mockup.

@ Stwelin: Don't try to bend my words, of course pregnant ladies are not fair game. You can make a joke about killing them tough, and (likely) no one will get upset. Because pregnant ladies are NOT routinely killed, they won't feel threatened/personally attacked by the joke. I can't believe I even have to state this.

I really do believe now that mice meant no harm, he didn't even know that Jack was murdered in the movie. I'm sure that if he did know, he wouldn't have made that image. Can we please just put this behind us already?
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« Reply #284 on: March 05, 2008, 03:35:20 am »
I find explicitly discriminatory or racist things hilarious.

I'm not racist or discriminatory by credo, however I wouldn't hesitate to make a gay joke. I view all groups as equal, however some stuff is too outrageous to pass up.  :)

It must be really nice to be a straight white male and not give a damn about anybody else.

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« Reply #285 on: March 05, 2008, 03:45:36 am »
I find explicitly discriminatory or racist things hilarious.

I'm not racist or discriminatory by credo, however I wouldn't hesitate to make a gay joke. I view all groups as equal, however some stuff is too outrageous to pass up.  :)

It must be really nice to be a straight white male and not give a damn about anybody else.

Tell this to the black kid who has half my GPA and gets picked over me by the college admissions office.

Affirmative action "Ho!"

edit: just because a piece is not serious when dealing with issues of hate crime, race, gender, violence and et cetera, doesn't mean that it is not valid.

define: satire.
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« Reply #286 on: March 05, 2008, 04:09:28 am »
Cave - if you had seen the movie with the pregnant lady you would know she was an immigrant and being targeted to be killed by the government because she was an immigrant. This is a real world issue as well where Governments exploit racist sentiments to maintain power. The fact that they were willing to kill off the only chance for society's survival shows how short sighted, self defeating these policies are. But I was like ahahahahahah its that movie and its a nes game ahahah. Chill out, stop thinking in 'black and white' terms. Anyone can say they are not a racist without actually thinking about what racism actually. Here's a good one: an international friend told me that the tram inspectors only fine international students. Was she being racist by calling tram inspectors racist? If she had seen tram inspectors let 'locals' off and been fined herself, thats a fair statement. Otherwise methinks its a generalisation based on a prejudice that 'white people' are racist.

And yeah, I blurred homophobia and racism, but its all based on fear, hatred and the conclusions of a 'reptilian' mind.

How will censorship reduce hate crimes?
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #287 on: March 05, 2008, 04:22:39 am »
Seriously, you guys know how to kill a fun activity... :(
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« Reply #288 on: March 05, 2008, 04:36:11 am »
I know BOB. :(

Let's have a makeout session to lighten the mood :-*
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« Reply #289 on: March 05, 2008, 05:42:46 am »
Or we could have a dance party.

All we need is drums.

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« Reply #290 on: March 05, 2008, 11:44:44 am »
It must be really nice to be a straight white male and not give a damn about anybody else.

I think at this point this argument has only become ironic.
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« Reply #291 on: March 05, 2008, 11:59:05 am »
Let's have a makeout session to lighten the mood :-*

GAHAHAHAHa sign me up for that  :D  :lol:

PS: what happened to all those rolling squares emoticons? I think atleast the happy one and the lol one could be replaced with one of those.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #292 on: March 05, 2008, 02:19:12 pm »
Murder is among the leading causes of death for women, but particularly pregnant women.  This is only small compared to homicide counts against young black men, but it should also be remembered that hate crimes are not the primary motivator in those numbers, either.  To suggest that pregnant women are much less a target of violence and homicide because of their pregnancy than a young black man is a target because of his race alone is to be wrong.

Of course, there is a problem with this argument in that racism is a profound source of poverty and desperation, and both of those situations create environments in which murders and other crimes occur.  The bigots discovered long ago that if you keep people oppressed enough that they begin to behave like animals, they are able to tell themselves that those people are like animals, continue to oppress them, and continue to hide from the fact that their racism is indirectly murder.

This is true among highly educated people, oddly enough.  My grandfather, the late chief justice for the court of Delaware, went to his grave believing that black people caused crime because most of the crimes he reviewed (the gritty sort) were committed by blacks against blacks, not realizing or at least not expressing the idea that poverty causes crime and racism causes poverty among blacks.




As far as the mockup, presented out of context, the player does not understand why he is having wrenches thrown at him.  He unwittingly becomes the homosexual protagonist who is not by any means deserving of such a treatment.  Presented in context, he becomes so knowledgeably.  Whatever anger the player feels in that situation is directed at the unseen adversary - it is impossible to know where the wrenches are coming from aka it is impossible to know who is a danger to you as a homosexual until it becomes an immediate problem.  I stand by the piece as - intentionally or not - promoting empathy for the targets of an arbitrary hatred, be it homosexuality or be it something else equally irrelevant to their rights to a pain-free existence, due to the assignment of roles. 

If they were reversed, say, you were to win by beating homosexuals, it would be much more of a debate between whether it was good or bad.  it would be significantly more profound, as a game, in that empowerment demands decision making which demands a consideration of the subject - it forces people to strongly consider whether they are comfortable with being a bigot.  The success of the game would be measured by the number of people who refuse to play it, because that refusal demonstrates an understanding that the hatred is wrong which is what the game and the film are trying to convey.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #293 on: March 05, 2008, 02:27:51 pm »
Let's have a makeout session to lighten the mood :-*

GAHAHAHAHa sign me up for that  :D  :lol:

bah, I'll pass - my best friend and I just discovered that there's something extremely depressing about hooking up without a romantic attachment to each other.  Oh well, fun while it lasted.

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« Reply #294 on: March 05, 2008, 02:58:56 pm »
Quote from: cave
...he didn't even know that Jack was murdered in the movie.

That is YOUR interpretation of it.

Read this: (search for "jack died" in the text)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain

Ang Lee movies requires you to think for yourself, not just take the images one by one and store them.
It's clearly a movie about prejustice, and that it is an effect of many things.


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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #295 on: March 05, 2008, 03:27:06 pm »
my best friend and I just discovered that there's something extremely depressing about hooking up without a romantic attachment to each other.

That won't stop me and my best friend. I hope.  :(

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #296 on: March 05, 2008, 03:38:43 pm »
Re: adarias' analysis - interesting point that rargh! guy told me once is that he didn't like the movie 'se7en'. He said, by not showing the murders in that movie, you are forced to imagine how the murders took place. As a result of acting out the murders in your mind, you are complicite in them. I was like whoa, thats my favourite movie, now you are telling me I want to become a serial killer? Anyways, I bring it up to post a contrary view, that by not showing the racists, we are forced to imagine why they are throwing wrenches, and perhaps idea is planted in our mind as being valid. Bah, I sound like such a wanker, thats what happens when you try to say "im not a racist/homophobe". Which is hypocriitcal of me, considering I called Adarias a homo as an insult.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #297 on: March 05, 2008, 03:47:08 pm »
Re: adarias' analysis - interesting point that rargh! guy told me once is that he didn't like the movie 'se7en'. He said, by not showing the murders in that movie, you are forced to imagine how the murders took place. As a result of acting out the murders in your mind, you are complicite in them. I was like whoa, thats my favourite movie, now you are telling me I want to become a serial killer? Anyways, I bring it up to post a contrary view, that by not showing the racists, we are forced to imagine why they are throwing wrenches, and perhaps idea is planted in our mind as being valid. Bah, I sound like such a wanker, thats what happens when you try to say "im not a racist/homophobe". Which is hypocriitcal of me, considering I called Adarias a homo as an insult.

I agree, if the mockup actually showed the gay bashers as the baddies, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. As the game was designed, there was no way to win, it was understood that wrenches were going to be thrown at you forever. Which I guess isn't a bad lesson at all to learn, because it's probably true, at least figuratively... But it does make the stomach turn.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #298 on: March 05, 2008, 05:46:09 pm »
I agree, if the mockup actually showed the gay bashers as the baddies, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. As the game was designed, there was no way to win, it was understood that wrenches were going to be thrown at you forever. Which I guess isn't a bad lesson at all to learn, because it's probably true, at least figuratively... But it does make the stomach turn.

yeah, the stomach turn is the appropriate reaction, i'm just trying to say that it's a good thing for people to be sickened sometimes if it means fewer wrenches.

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and perhaps idea is planted in our mind as being valid.

I don't know if that's so much a danger because they are clearly antagonizing - most people would not feel an association with the things that harm them directly.  still, it's a risk.

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considering I called Adarias a homo
i had a show of hands at a party to see how many of my friends thought i was gay.  all but three and a half, lol.  perhaps i just give off that vibe.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #299 on: March 05, 2008, 06:03:36 pm »
Personally I thought that the humor of the mockup was simply the idea that the player can try to prevent the death of a character that is supposed to die according to the plot of the movie, and that the player's efforts are ultimately futile. A Titanic game where you play as Leonardo DiCaprio jumping on sinking blocks of ice and debris would have been funny for the same reasons.
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