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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #150 on: January 28, 2008, 02:57:22 am »
ah. Well in that case, I'll go ahead and buy one. Seeing as I need a new sketch book anyways.

forgot to metnion don't get the big ones as there's little enough point in it - get the pocket sized.

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« Reply #151 on: January 28, 2008, 03:03:41 am »
yes, I assumed as much. Partially considering the big ones seem to be nearly three times your estimated price.  :P
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« Reply #152 on: January 28, 2008, 03:43:58 am »
Also another good thing is little-to-no bleed-through.  :y:

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« Reply #153 on: January 28, 2008, 04:11:37 am »
depends what you are using. moleskine paper is not good for markers.
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« Reply #154 on: January 28, 2008, 05:25:37 am »
not good for markers at all!  yet wonderful for surface media like aquarelle which will not even darken the following side.

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« Reply #155 on: January 28, 2008, 08:23:50 am »
Oooh. I like to use vellum and sharpies! You can make really clean looking stuff with those.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #156 on: January 28, 2008, 09:57:30 am »
http://www.scientology.org/ received over three million simultaneous dos attacks today, and it will most likely never come back  :hehe:

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« Reply #157 on: January 28, 2008, 11:56:06 am »
The site looks up to me.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #158 on: January 28, 2008, 01:09:32 pm »
.TakaM, how naive are you? Anonymous might be lots of people and strong in what they do, but scientology is no small enemy in any case.
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« Reply #159 on: January 28, 2008, 01:15:18 pm »
Yes I know, but I do find that kinda difficult to answer.
I want them to prevail, it'd be great if everything did go according to their plan, but the realist in me says nothing will happen, hard to discern my real expectations.

but hey, it was down for a while, and I'm definitely expecting it to go down again
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« Reply #160 on: January 28, 2008, 04:55:35 pm »
Sorry for being naive, but what exactly is the problem everyone has with Scientology?

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #161 on: January 28, 2008, 05:15:00 pm »
Well it's even worse than a regular religion that just wants your money because it's a cult. It also wants your soul.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #162 on: January 28, 2008, 08:39:13 pm »
Religion ? I've always been told it was a sect.
At least, that's what it is called in France.

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« Reply #163 on: January 28, 2008, 08:59:33 pm »
Scientology claims to heal people's souls by making them take expensive courses in which the patients are made to re-live the traumatic events of their life that have caused them to become unstable ( and thus dispelling the evil alien spirits in their soul but I'm not evem gonna go into that ). There may be something to that or not,  but that's not the problem.

The problem is making them pay craploads of money for those dianetic sessions and IF they decide to leave the cult, all the personal information about the most traumatic events of their lives that they have revealed during the sessions will be used to blackmail them to make them come back or shut up about what they've learned about the inner workings of scientology.

It's not a religion, or at least their religious doctrines are so laughable that they are.. laughable. I don't think dianetics is a proven method for curing anything in the first place. They certainly are not open for independent scientific testing of dianetics or open discussions about it. Nevertheless, one person whose mental stability dianetics didn't seem to be able to restore was the one of the whole cult's founder, Ron Hubbard, who died as a freaked-out hermit.

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« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2008, 09:04:01 pm »
I ordered a moleskine, but it's on back order.   :mean:
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« Reply #165 on: January 29, 2008, 01:22:54 am »
Religion ? I've always been told it was a sect.
At least, that's what it is called in France.
that reminds me, can anyone tell me the difference(s) between a religion, a sect, and a cult?
Back in highschool I couldn't find any real differences, just what each one says about the others
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #166 on: January 29, 2008, 02:03:07 am »
Yes. A religion is a sect that is recogised as a religion by the goverment where you're at. Either want your money. And a cult is an organisation that wants both your money and your soul.

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« Reply #167 on: January 29, 2008, 02:28:11 am »
another working definition is that a religion is a large, recognized group of people who admit spiritual similarity, while a sect is a smaller, more rigidly defined group.  Presbyterianism is a sect within protestant christianity, usually referend to as a branch (which has a better connotation), but other small religious groups not not belong to a larger religion.  Some other smaller groups, such as mormons and other latterday-saints churches, are so different from their parent faith (christianity) that they are often referred to as sects rather than branches of the christian faith.

As far as money is concerned, it depends on where you go.  Most religious organizations (community churches) are meant to be self-supporting, and not demanding, and many ofther programs such as AA and other programs follow the collection plate method.  Most religions and groups are concerned with humility and the rejection of excess, and the church as well as support groups provides many people with what they see as a trustworthy cause to give their excess to.  You are free to attend and give as you please.

Cults on the other hand often demand participation and giving.  Think of a cult as boy scouts, a labor union, soviet russia, and british colonial policies rolled into one big stinking pile.

PS i heard that scientology and latterday-saints churches was banned in france; i know it is at least banned in morocco

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #169 on: January 29, 2008, 04:08:24 am »
http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=e10543891fd2e7277d15

This is a story about a fictitious boy named Josh who wrote a letter to Zach about his fictitious friend Jesus …

I watch a Christian channel when drawing because I like having the TV on and there is no ads (it beats hearing about f*cking ab machines all day). One time there was a man who claimed to have actually been to hell (god showed it to him). He wrote a book called ’23 minutes in hell’ (because that’s how long he was there for) and talked about it with the tv priests who loved the book.

If you google quotes and cult:

"The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own”
Frank Zappa quotes (American Composer, Guitarist, Satirist and Song Writer, 1940-1993)
 
What Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology, openly said:

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion"

(http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Scientology)
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« Reply #170 on: January 29, 2008, 05:39:33 am »
I ordered a moleskine, but it's on back order.   :mean:
Back order? Are they really that popular? My college book store was over stocked with them when I worked there so I took a few. I also got a few of the crummy thin paper ones. Avoid them.

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« Reply #171 on: January 29, 2008, 06:33:15 am »
"The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own”
Frank Zappa quotes (American Composer, Guitarist, Satirist and Song Writer, 1940-1993)

as much as I like frank zappa, I find it impossible to respect people who use a very limited, usually childhood understanding of church as an excuse to insult all forms of faith.

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« Reply #172 on: January 29, 2008, 10:39:07 am »
I'm pretty sure Frank Zappa isn't the kind of person where whether you respect them or not makes any difference, and there's no reason to try to present his qualifications until you do. Kinda like Salvadore Dali.

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« Reply #173 on: January 29, 2008, 10:49:48 am »
"The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own?
Frank Zappa quotes (American Composer, Guitarist, Satirist and Song Writer, 1940-1993)

as much as I like frank zappa, I find it impossible to respect people who use a very limited, usually childhood understanding of church as an excuse to insult all forms of faith.

What else did Frank Zappa say on religion? That quote on its own is pretty eloquent and not at all insulting. My understanding cults are persecuted by Governments whereas religions are not. But the difference between the two are not so obvious: both will have a messiah figure, promises of future wealth, sacrifices etc. In one documentary concerning early Christianity in Britain (Christians were persecuted by the Romans) one historian said a cult could be considered a religion after it has more than 100 people.

Scientology got itself classified as a religion because Governments (eg. Victorian, Australia) are only able to crack down on cults. 
Modern artists are told that they must create something totally original-or risk being called "derivative".They've been indoctrinated with the concept that bad=good.The effect is always the same: Meaningless primitivism
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« Reply #174 on: January 29, 2008, 11:46:47 am »
The Dumb All Over / Heavenly Bank Account combo pretty much sums up Zappa's view on religion. I don't agree with many of his views but his comments about TV Evangelists were spot on. "There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." The music itself aside, I don't think Zappa's greatest value is in any single cherry picked thoughts of his, but in his refusal to respect anything or take anything seriously.
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« Reply #175 on: January 29, 2008, 12:10:59 pm »
I also got a few of the crummy thin paper ones. Avoid them.

Guess, what. The "crummy thin paper ones" are not sketch but notebooks :P
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« Reply #176 on: January 29, 2008, 02:17:33 pm »
http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=showhack&id=466
pretty nice graphics for a romhack, only thing lacking is mario's run animation, but since he's restricted to 3 frames (if I recall correctly) I guess it'll do.
anyone ever seen a good 3 frame run cycle?

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #177 on: January 29, 2008, 03:51:05 pm »
Not quite, as mentioned before, it was submitted to StumbleUpon.

I was quite (pleasantly) surprised to find it there.

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« Reply #178 on: February 01, 2008, 05:36:16 am »
Hey guys.  I somehow managed to wander away from Pixelation for several months; I think school happened >_<  Glad to see you're all still here, unlike last time I was gone for more than a couple weeks.
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« Reply #179 on: February 01, 2008, 06:59:31 am »
Welcome back Robalan!  :)

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« Reply #180 on: February 01, 2008, 11:51:23 am »
Welcome back Robalan!  :)

*puts knife to throat* Now where the F*** is PKmays!!!

Yeah he just kinda disapeared halfway at Pixelator :\

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« Reply #181 on: February 01, 2008, 04:01:26 pm »
*Throws hands up* I don't know!  I swear!  I was asking the same thing last time I was here!  *Looks around frantically* Why don't you ask one of the mods?  They might know better!
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« Reply #183 on: February 02, 2008, 09:41:03 pm »
Oh man, I can see some trippy stuff arising from that technology.

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« Reply #184 on: February 02, 2008, 10:30:42 pm »
I have no idea how, but I knew exactly what that Youtube vid was before I clicked it. Weird.
Saw that on attack of the Show a while ago. Pretty really friggin awesome.

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« Reply #185 on: February 03, 2008, 05:27:04 am »
Wow, I could imagine the possibilities. I would love to see Wii games take advantage of this. Too bad it only works for one person at a time.

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« Reply #186 on: February 03, 2008, 04:36:01 pm »
Wow, I could imagine the possibilities. I would love to see Wii games take advantage of this. Too bad it only works for one person at a time.

i'm sure for multiplayer they could rig it up to divide between two screens same as all multiplayer.  but yeah for two people at a time they either need separate screens of completely different physics.

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« Reply #187 on: February 03, 2008, 05:12:08 pm »
Oh wow, 5 dollars for a notepad. Do you know how many different things you can do with five dollars? That's five hundred cents, man. That'l buy you a lot of paper, lots of notepads.

...i don't get it.

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« Reply #188 on: February 03, 2008, 05:30:47 pm »
Oh wow, 5 dollars for a notepad. Do you know how many different things you can do with five dollars? That's five hundred cents, man. That'l buy you a lot of paper, lots of notepads.

...i don't get it.

well first it's a sketchbook (not notes, not pad), if that helps it make sense - the money is for the quality of the paper, the binding, and the durability.  It's hardcover, so it will keep things safe.  It's toned, which is always a plus, and takes ink, watercolor, and gauche without buckling.  Do i use computer paper to sketch?  All the time.  Do i own a moleskine? of course.  In fact, i own three, two of which have ever face filled and one is about halfway through.

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« Reply #189 on: February 03, 2008, 06:05:19 pm »
That's nice and all purpose. But wouldn't a binder and paper bought separately, capable of handling all those mediums, be cheaper and as useful? Plus, reusability (both of the cover and of the paper used inside).

It's becoming a trend with some people i know, which tend to be people who buy things to be trendy, not necessarily because they really need them. Like the guy who dislikes games but just bought a state of the art graphics card (tested it for 5 minutes with one of the latest Tomb Raiders, and then turned it off), or the one that bought one of those digital cameras with exchageable lenses because "he wants to be an artist" (last month he was going to learn dj'ing, and the month prior he was going to do an oil painting of a white square on black background. Of course none of those came to be).

But if it's something that really fulfills one's needs, i'd say the money's completely justifiable! (edit) all i'm advocating is intelligent buying.
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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #190 on: February 03, 2008, 08:07:44 pm »
That's nice and all purpose. But wouldn't a binder and paper bought separately, capable of handling all those mediums, be cheaper and as useful? Plus, reusability (both of the cover and of the paper used inside).

yeah but the biggest trouble with loose papers is implied - they are easily lost.  the other thing is that a binder has rings, which are a pain (for me):



now that's smooth - comfy.

the pocket size also does it for me.  not many good sketchpads come that size, and the truth of the matter is that if you got 2-ply toned smooth paper, you'ld need i'd wager 4 A0 sheets of it, which would cost oddly enough about $5 even at a good cheap shop, so nope - buying paper separately is a losing bet, and then to have a store bind book-style in leather would cost the consumer way more than it would to just buy the processed book.  I know, it's fueling big business and middle-men, but they get it a hell of a lot cheaper than I can, and those savings pass on to me... :D

the one that bought one of those digital cameras with exchageable lenses because "he wants to be an artist"
A digital SLR is an important investment for the would-be photographer, but no, anyone else should stick to a power-shot.  I'm considering a good digital camera (th d40x, to be specific) for the sake not only of my photography electives but also of preserving my traditional works, because even say a thousand dollars is worth it in the long run, provided that RAW format doesn't go out of style in the next 15-20 years.  A decent film camera is also a good investment because they are cheap are far superior to digitals of twice the price.  Of course if it never gets used it's a stupid waste of money regardless.

But if it's something that really fulfills one's needs, i'd say the money's completely justifiable! (edit) all i'm advocating is intelligent buying.
so we're on the same page :P

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #191 on: February 04, 2008, 12:49:15 am »
Ok, i can see how those characteristics can be appealing. I just find paying for such features as brand name and guarantee (for a... sketchbook!) unnecessary (silly). I'll stick with 50 cents crappy notepads :)

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #192 on: February 04, 2008, 01:26:54 am »
I just find paying for such features as brand name and guarantee (for a... sketchbook!) unnecessary (silly).

Heh, brand name isn't why i or any serious artist uses them - tell me a cheaper sketchbook that's half as good and i'll buy it before you can blink.

I'll stick with 50 cents crappy notepads

We must live in different towns, around here 50c wouldn't get you anything.  Cheapest shit is at least $1.29 at duane reade and you can practically see through the pages.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #193 on: February 04, 2008, 01:36:17 am »
Around here you can get a 75 sheet RULED notepad for $1. But it's sucks for art, it's like see threw and the lines really take a lot away from it. The dollar store also sells sketchbooks for about $2.50, but it's basically just white construction paper, so that really doesn't help much at all either. I tend to use BIGGIE sketch pads, because it still isn't uber expensive. I'm going to try moleskin, though. Hopefully the pages don't instantly fall out like BIGGIE ones do, that would suck.

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« Reply #194 on: February 04, 2008, 10:20:15 am »
Skething in a notepad is really difficult for me.. because I know that someone's gonna want to browse it anyway, so the sketches can't be totally crap and random and unpolished.

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Re: Official Off-Topic Thread
« Reply #195 on: February 04, 2008, 11:03:51 am »
I used to have trouble with people browsing my sketches too. Then I decided not to care and it helped.

You should keep in mind that for non-artists whatever you draw that is moderately okay will seem super-amazing to them. And for artists they are well aware of the 'oh noooo don't look at my sketcheeeeeeeees' effect and will sympathise.
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« Reply #196 on: February 04, 2008, 12:43:08 pm »
There's always someone who can't begin to sympathise and assumes the crap is a reflection on your skill as an artist, they usually point out obvious flaws and look down their noses as if they have any valid oppinions on your art. My brother's like that, he see's what Im capable of and looks at my doodles as if to say 'come on, you can do better than that..'

I agree not caring helps, but theres always a part of you that wants to be an excellent draftsman straight off the mark.
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« Reply #197 on: February 04, 2008, 02:45:38 pm »
I agree not caring helps, but theres always a part of you that wants to be an excellent draftsman straight off the mark.

This is why I like to sketch with pencils and not pens ;)
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« Reply #198 on: February 04, 2008, 03:22:56 pm »
If you're so worried, you could sketch with invisible ink under a UV lamp. Hehe :p

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« Reply #199 on: February 04, 2008, 08:33:41 pm »
No Country For Old Men was yummy.
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